Our goal is to provide quality racing for you all, within the limits of our ability.That would be to cover the 6 years I have spent playing LFS if I wanted to play iRacing for that same amount of time thats the cheapest it would cost me for all the content available. Once more content is made available it will cost more as I would have pay to play with it.
Where as with LFS it would be what, $75 dollars by the time it's all said and done with S3? Sure the content may not have every component measured or every track laser scanned, it has a great community though and to me thats more important than having the latest gadget and gizmo. But it seems that I am a minority
My facts are perfectly strait. He wants people to pay hundreds of bucks a month to play something that will never be like real racing at the end of the day. No simulator will by definition and will only give approximations. My only issue is the shear amount of money needed to play the game. If others feel different please go ahead, but I would rather save my money for things that are already duplicated elsewhere.
He's not doing anything new, he may have gone a bit more in detail with some aspects, but for me that detail isn't worth the $1200 difference I would have to pay to duplicate the time I have spent in LFS. I can think of a lot of things I can buy with that money that would last those 6 years easily and something I would still be able to sell after I didn't want it. That 1200 is the minimum. Once more content is available that cost difference will go up as you buy more tracks and cars.
one part of the calculation is how close you were to the lap record time for your fastest lap. So if your laps were too slow it doesn't matter which position you finish in.
This is to prevent people from earning points while the server is empty.
This is to prevent people from earning points while the server is empty.
Considering iRacings price of $300 a year LFS is a bargain =)
Cheers for that, it was so blurry I couldn't even see the meshes being messed up at first.
Shotty you really need to stop doctoring those pictures, you will give iRacing a bad name
LOL
A great opportunity for people to play LFS and the excellent services provided =)
Shotglass those pics feel like I am wearing glasses they are so blurry, are you intentionally doctoring up those screenies? =P
Or people just don't want to fork out that kind of money for something when the same could be had elsewhere.
Sure real tracks/cars,
I'd rather wait for LFS to have both knowing that the devs are here for the community, not to make cash.After that time yes, only the admins will be able to see your infractions, nobody else will be able to.
Because they need money to pay for the tracks and services provided?
Not seeing it myself yet, there are other ways to generate cash besides placing it directly onto the consumer.
Not seeing it myself yet, there are other ways to generate cash besides placing it directly onto the consumer.
I'm in the same boat as Sam, I could afford it if I really wanted to, but on principle I won't touch the thing because I don't like how the payments are set up.
If I am understanding you correctly yes. If someone did a report on you, your infraction ribbon would be visible for 6 months for bans less than permanent.
:drool: I would like to try one of those.
Never going to play it, the cost doesn't need to be that high, real content or not, I am not going to pay that much personally.
Yep, Becky has a system she wrote for the STCC. When the CTRA stops developing our software the idea was to get some leagues going. Some of these leagues will run a similar system so all hope is not lost!
I used her older version of the system last year and I really like it, you had a bit of time to get some heat into the tires, and you could park at sligtly different angles so you could get maximum traction to fill the gaps with the RB4 without having to turn. We did have a couple pileups the first go, but that was from unfamiliarity.
I used her older version of the system last year and I really like it, you had a bit of time to get some heat into the tires, and you could park at sligtly different angles so you could get maximum traction to fill the gaps with the RB4 without having to turn. We did have a couple pileups the first go, but that was from unfamiliarity.
I played GTR2 for a tiny bit, it was ok, but I hated the multiplayer. Every time someone connected the game would jump and it was hard to get good races in with everyone lagging.
Single player was fun, but the engines sounded flat to me and the physics were good, to a point, they they went south pretty quick for me.
Glad you enjoy LFS, IMO it's the best to be had for physics currently and the best thing is, it's still WIP and being developed so personally I like the idea that it can only get better from here, and I don't have to pay for it! well much more when S3 comes out which we must be nearing in the next year or so, but thats just assumptions.
Single player was fun, but the engines sounded flat to me and the physics were good, to a point, they they went south pretty quick for me.
Glad you enjoy LFS, IMO it's the best to be had for physics currently and the best thing is, it's still WIP and being developed so personally I like the idea that it can only get better from here, and I don't have to pay for it! well much more when S3 comes out which we must be nearing in the next year or so, but thats just assumptions.
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No, not exactly but hey just another day in miscommunication Chris land =)Hehe gave me a good chuckle too =)
You will just have to wait and see what's happening, it should be good, I know that =) I am excited though =) But them I am easily excitable...
=) Well it's soooo easy =)
LOL Yeah Sam is busy ATM and doesn't have the time to look at the chat service, it will be back, but after we sort some other stuff out first.
I agree Misko that the admin controls help manage the league, but when looking from a drivers perspective there is nothing different. The race format is the same, the point are calculated the same, and the after-race support is the same. There won't be many drivers going 'up' and most of the people running the national league are not doing it because they think they have a chance.
IF the broadcasts were doing something and there was some promotion then this would be great, but there is neither.
Race by race is nothing different than any other league, sure 1 driver can be sent to the international division, but that doesn't mean much when there is only something like 5-8 drivers running and no broadcasting.
For the admin side I have enjoyed using the system and it has made my life easier, but a driver isn't going to care about that, only the admins which in theory is going to be 4 admins for 80 drivers.
UKCT will not be running season2. We have our own projects to manage and develop. Joe knew this when we started that we could not commit much to his project and we were only there to manage only the UK division.
Misko I am happy to let you take control of the UK division, Sam and I see things very differently than yourself which is very similar to how the rest of the UK feels, and have plenty of other things to do with the CTRA than to try to stoke up interest in a league that really isn't ours, after promises were made to both Sam and I, that have not materialized.
I understand where you are coming from Misko and I do want this to succeed, but neither Sam or I have the time resources to help at this time. Not when Sam is busy doing CTRA things, while I am busy with a full time job, online classwork to do, CTRA things to do, and a pregnant wife to keep happy. This project currently has given us little incentive to give our 3 hours a week to when those three hours could be spent bettering and managing our own system. We did try to tell Joe this when we started, that we cannot do much more than we are currently, but I think there was some miscommunication.
The other thing is most leagues I have seen have had rocky starts, but until Joe can distribute some of his workload to other motivated members of the community, it's not going to go very far. Becky ran into this same type of problem with the STCC, she wanted to control/develop everything and she burned herself out, twice. I don't know what is exactly happening with Joe but something needs to change. It's not one division in particular, all divisions have small grids, the last international race didn't even happen and the balkens division had 3 runners.
This shows that there was some miscommunication of exactly what the system means and brings people, everyone I have talked to has said that they wanted to race and wanted to watch the races on the live streams, which were on their way to being TV worthy IMO. But since those have stopped the rest of the grids have fallen apart. You can say that all these other things are different all day, but the proof is that once the broadcasts ended the league disintegrated and that can be seen by looking at the grid sizes. If people did care about all those other things your talking about, then where did all the drivers go, all on a big holiday?
IF the broadcasts were doing something and there was some promotion then this would be great, but there is neither.
Race by race is nothing different than any other league, sure 1 driver can be sent to the international division, but that doesn't mean much when there is only something like 5-8 drivers running and no broadcasting.
For the admin side I have enjoyed using the system and it has made my life easier, but a driver isn't going to care about that, only the admins which in theory is going to be 4 admins for 80 drivers.
UKCT will not be running season2. We have our own projects to manage and develop. Joe knew this when we started that we could not commit much to his project and we were only there to manage only the UK division.
Misko I am happy to let you take control of the UK division, Sam and I see things very differently than yourself which is very similar to how the rest of the UK feels, and have plenty of other things to do with the CTRA than to try to stoke up interest in a league that really isn't ours, after promises were made to both Sam and I, that have not materialized.
I understand where you are coming from Misko and I do want this to succeed, but neither Sam or I have the time resources to help at this time. Not when Sam is busy doing CTRA things, while I am busy with a full time job, online classwork to do, CTRA things to do, and a pregnant wife to keep happy. This project currently has given us little incentive to give our 3 hours a week to when those three hours could be spent bettering and managing our own system. We did try to tell Joe this when we started, that we cannot do much more than we are currently, but I think there was some miscommunication.
The other thing is most leagues I have seen have had rocky starts, but until Joe can distribute some of his workload to other motivated members of the community, it's not going to go very far. Becky ran into this same type of problem with the STCC, she wanted to control/develop everything and she burned herself out, twice. I don't know what is exactly happening with Joe but something needs to change. It's not one division in particular, all divisions have small grids, the last international race didn't even happen and the balkens division had 3 runners.
This shows that there was some miscommunication of exactly what the system means and brings people, everyone I have talked to has said that they wanted to race and wanted to watch the races on the live streams, which were on their way to being TV worthy IMO. But since those have stopped the rest of the grids have fallen apart. You can say that all these other things are different all day, but the proof is that once the broadcasts ended the league disintegrated and that can be seen by looking at the grid sizes. If people did care about all those other things your talking about, then where did all the drivers go, all on a big holiday?
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Or that, checked his license on CTRA. Have notes that he was banned when we had the wrecker barricade, and he has since then had a couple reports on him from speed hacking which we have banned him for on the CTRA as well.
You really are trying to get yourself banned...
LOL
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